Wednesday, July 8, 2015

Flood Talk Dominates June 29, 2015 Council Meeting

July 1, 2015:  In all fairness, the recent water problems are not entirely the fault of the current administration. The responses to it and going forward will be and will absolutely be under a microscope. There are ways to do right by the people that feel they have been failed. Going forward I hope administration can be humble enough to take the advice of the constituents and be honest, become creative, search for grant money, step up their methods of communication and do whatever it takes to keep our taxpayers happy and to protect our property values.

Here are some resident stories and comments from Monday’s meeting in addition to what I posted yesterday. Get comfy and your beverage of choice. Stay dry my friends!

Resident stories: A polite soft-spoken Wolf Rd. resident approached council with topography photos of his property. Since 2008 he has had 5 devastating floods, 2 last week. He lost his swimming pool this time. He pays 5 figures in taxes and nothing has been done. He has approached the city before and he’s not seen any help. Leaving his number “Could I hear back from someone shortly?”

An E. Oakland resident has been flooding for 30 years. No one contacts him or returns his phone calls though he has called the sewer department, his council and the mayor. There are people on his street that are senior citizens and have heart issues. “If the sewers can’t handle what we already have why are we building more houses and adding stress to the present drain system? No one has the courtesy to return calls.” His neighbors won’t come to meetings; they are disgusted and have come to terms with living with water in their basements. He suggested maybe we should get a discount on our taxes. The mayor assured him they are definitely looking at it and he shot back “Yeah you’ve been looking at it for 30 years.”

A Wolf Rd. resident has been calling the city for over 4 weeks – prior to the recent rains. He wanted them to come out because the sewer in front of his house is clogged. It is a city sewer and every time it rains, it floods. No one from the city will call back. Now they have water back up in the basement and have to foot the bill.

A Nantucket resident stated some neighbors dump mulch using an inch or more for landscaping. It ends up clogging drains. The law director said the city can address the landscaping.
A Carlton Rd. resident said that everyone on Carlton flooded. He was happy with the way the city helped him 2 years ago. They did an excellent job finding a blockage in his sewer system. He dug everything up and fixed it and still had water.

A Carlton Rd. resident believes it cannot be a coincidence that they were under water while the state of the art pumping station was being worked on. He has talked to 3 people that have lived there for 25 and 35 years. No one has had water and all of a sudden under the new technology, the pumping station, crews arguing, crews coming back, the neighbors are aware that something is fishy. Is there a problem there or not because if there is not then you should not have crews there all day Saturday and again on Saturday night. Bob Greytak said the sanitary sewer pumping station has got nothing to do with the storm water. Not a drop of storm water goes into that station. The flooding on the street had nothing to do with that station.

A Lincoln Rd. resident noted that there are problems throughout the city with storm water getting into sanitary sewers.

A resident wanted to know if all the sewers before the rains were completely cleaned out and efficient so they could handle the water coming through. The mayor responded they undertake regular maintenance but do not have the equipment or manpower to make a pass through the entire city prior to a storm.

A resident wanted to know if the layoffs prior to the election were service people that could have helped with the situation. The mayor responded that the layoffs were internal janitorial. The city went from 140 to 92 employees but no one from the sewer crew was involved.

A Lane Drive resident on the western border found the Avon Lake Hunt Club Development retention basin draining into our Bay Village sewer system. His councilman and sewer crews as well as the Avon Lake service director came to his area to investigate. He says the pipe is not supposed to be there. He says this requires a quick resolution. The mayor said this is part of that whole Walker Rd. system that feeds into that basin. It is designed to go north at a low rate so it does not swamp the system but they will look at it.

A Kenilworth resident suggested the mayor didn’t need to take calls to get an idea where flooding occurred but to drive around instead. She assured him she has but a call to register your address will help to figure out if it’s a neighborhood issue or a private property issue.

A resident asked in light of the $7.4 million invested why aren’t we building bigger storm drains. The mayor responded that we live in a mature community where the infrastructure was put in 40, 50, 60 years ago. We’ve got 2 separate systems: the sanitary system and the storm system.

A resident asked if the sanitary and storm sewers are separated and the storm sewers are already backing up, won’t the separation make it worse. The mayor said it is not a one size fits all solution. It may not be the best idea to put clean water from the sanitary to the storm sewer.

A Lincoln Rd. resident asked if someone was looking at the situation in a comprehensive manner. Since everyone’s problem is unique – some in how they drain into the sewer and some with combined sewers. You can’t just solve one problem here and create another in another location. Is it being addressed and who is studying this issue, is it the engineer or do we have specialized firms? Bob Greytak from CT Consultants gave the company background and what they have been working on with Bay. They have the specific target area of Bruce, Douglas and Russell with about 140 homes and are doing a comprehensive model in that area. How much storm water can we get out of the sanitary sewer and conversely, how does it affect the storm sewer. The study should be completed by years end. The resident is hoping for a comprehensive strategy if we all pitch in some small way to help save our property and our property values. The mayor has information from Rocky River that will be on the website. It will discuss what the homeowner’s responsibility is, what the city’s responsibility is and what you can do to help.

One resident expressed stress about the city’s lack of creativity to solve these problems. When rain barrels were mentioned the mayor said they might have to tweak an ordinance first.
One suggested a citizen committee to help get the word out and for various insights on how to best manage their own personal property.

A resident asked if the pump stations are sufficient, would 4 be better instead of 2. Greytak said he is not hearing that the pump station is causing problems. There are no storm pump stations and to try and pump surface flow is not advantageous.

Mayor Sutherland said at one point: All I can tell you is that we did not have blockages in the system. We found some quirks but we have not found blockages.

The good news: If there is feces in your basement it’s probably from your own house.
Someone said there were 8 sewer department employees, someone else said 6 – in any event it is not a lot.

The place to begin is with residents doing what they can for their individual property. Once the reason for back up is identified, there are options for what a resident can do. There were no solutions for those that have done all they could and still had water or sewage back up. These people in particular are the ones that feel the city bears responsibility. Many residents did take time to agree that “none of these sewers are designed to handle any of these storms” - which comes back to the city rebuilding with money we do not have. All proper reporting will be done with the EPA.


Understand these are my notes. I was there writing as fast as I could and listening to a mediocre recording of this night. If some thoughts seem incomplete to you, please listen to the entire recording for more information. 

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